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In 2020 I travelled back to Australia with my family and did mandatory hotel quarantine. Max Quinn called me every day for 30 mins and we did a daily podcast. We chatted about everything from why I am fighting QAnon to songwriting to cults to the value of fun. Available on all podcast networks. 


Every now and then, people as me to talk at their event. This is a chat I gave about "Thinking Outside the Box"

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